Mr. Curry. There is a time—there wasn't at this time.
Mr. Rankin. Why not?
Mr. Curry. No particular reason. They just, a lot of the news media say they didn't think they could see him up there or couldn't get pictures of him up there and we brought him in there in front of the screen and kept him there as I recall only about 4 or 5 minutes and shoving up close to him and taking shots of him and took him upstairs and I believe the district attorney and his assistant stayed down and perhaps talked to the news media for several minutes.
But we took Harvey Oswald back upstairs and I think I went back to my office.
Mr. Dulles. This was the evening of Friday, was it not?
Mr. Curry. I believe so, sir.
Mr. Dulles. Did you say Ruby was present that evening?
Mr. Curry. I have understood he was. But to my own knowledge, I wouldn't have known him because I didn't know him.
Mr. McCloy. You said you first saw Ruby when?
Mr. Curry. In a trial. I believe it was for a bond hearing where they were attempting to get bond for him. And I saw him sitting at a counsel table and recognized him from pictures I had seen of him in the paper.