(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Rankin. Chief Curry, do you know of any police records of your police department that showed that this weapon that was purportedly involved in the assassination was a Mauser rifle?

Mr. Curry. No, sir; not to my knowledge.

Representative Ford. All of your records show affirmatively it was the Italian rifle?

Mr. Curry. Yes, sir. That is correct.

Mr. McCloy. While we are waiting for Mr. Rankin to continue his examination, let me ask you this question, Chief.

Did you, prior to the assassination, know or hear of Oswald?

Mr. Curry. Never.

Mr. McCloy. Didn't hear that he had been—there was a defector named Oswald in the city of Dallas?

Mr. Curry. No, sir.