Mr. Ball. Your records show the showup for Helen Markham was 4:45.
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Do you think that is about right?
Mr. Fritz. I think that is about right.
Mr. Ball. All right, now how long after that would you say you went back to your office and talked to him again?
Mr. Fritz. I would say within, it would take us a few minutes, you know, to get him back from the showup, probably 15 minutes, something like that.
Mr. Ball. Who was present?
Mr. Fritz. Twenty minutes.
Mr. Ball. Who was present at this questioning?
Mr. Fritz. This particular questioning?