Mr. Ball. After the arraignment, your records show that there was—he talked to an agent named Clements, do you remember that?

Mr. Fritz. I believe that during one of the times when I was out, had to leave the office for a minute to attend to something, Mr. Clements asked me if it would be all right for him to take a little personal history.

Mr. Ball. Were you present at that time?

Mr. Fritz. No.

Mr. Ball. That was in your office?

Mr. Fritz. In the office.

Mr. Ball. Who was there at the time?

Mr. Fritz. I don't know. He was there, I know some of my officers were there, they had to watch him all the time.

Mr. Ball. Sims and Boyd?

Mr. Fritz. If they weren't there, some homicide officers were.