Mr. McCloy. Where was the—where did you first see the gun that was presumably used in the murder of Tippit?
Mr. Fritz. Of Tippit?
Mr. McCloy. Tippit, yes; .38-caliber pistol.
Mr. Fritz. The officers brought that in, you know, when they brought him in from the arrest at Oak Cliff.
Mr. McCloy. And they had that, you had seen it at about the time you first saw Oswald?
Mr. Fritz. Well, a few minutes later.
Mr. McCloy. A few minutes later?
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir.
Mr. McCloy. It did show signs from your experience of having been recently fired?
Mr. Fritz. I don't believe you can tell about that too well any more. You know the old style ammunition you could tell if a gun had been fired recently by the residue left in the barrel and smelling the barrel, but with the new ammunition they don't have that.