Mr. Ball. Callaway is a tall blond man, he was a used car salesman, used carlot on the corner of Patton and Jefferson.

Mr. Fritz. I believe Officer Leavelle talked to him. Any of these witnesses when I say I didn't talk to them, that doesn't mean I didn't go out and say something to them but I didn't question them.

Mr. Ball. Did you say to anyone of these witnesses, "We think we have got the man that killed Tippit and he is probably the man who killed the President"? Anything like that?

Mr. Fritz. I don't remember saying anything like that.

Mr. Ball. Did you say, "I want you to look at him good because we want to make the identification."

Mr. Fritz. Oh, no. We didn't need to. The first witness that went down with me convinced me on the Tippit killing.

Mr. McCloy. That is Mrs. Markham?

Mr. Fritz. Yes; Helen Markham. And she was a real good witness and she identified him positively and picked him out in a manner that you could tell she was honest in her identification.

Mr. Ball. We came up to the time you got him in jail that is at 12:05.

Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir.