Mr. Ball. Was there any further questioning about an attorney, whether or not he wanted a lawyer and who he wanted?
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir; there probably was because I talked to him about a lawyer a number of times and he said he didn't want the local attorneys, some attorney had been up to see him after one of these questionings, and he said he didn't want him at all. He wanted Mr. Abt. And he couldn't get him and I told you about the ones there in the American Civil Liberties Union.
Mr. Ball. Didn't he tell you at one time he didn't want to answer any questions until he talked to his lawyer?
Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir; he told me that two or three times.
Mr. Ball. This morning he told you that, didn't he?
Mr. Fritz. He probably did.
Mr. Ball. Look on your notes there on the page 137D and see whether or not that refreshes your memory? (Commission Document 81B.)
Mr. Fritz. 137G?
Mr. Ball. 137D.
Mr. Fritz. I told him—you know he had told me he could not use the telephone because he didn't have the money to pay for a call. I told him he could call collect from the jail to call anyone he wanted to, and I believe at that time he probably thanked me for that.