Mr. Ball. Yes, that would be the 23d.

Mr. Fritz. No, sir; he did not.

Mr. Ball. Did Chief Curry tell you that Decker had called or anything of that sort?

Mr. Fritz. Yes, sir; when I was talking to Chief Curry on one of those conversations, I don't think it is the conversation now when he told me about the hours, I think it is another conversation, I told him, I said, "I don't know whether we were going to transfer him or Decker was going to transfer him," and Chief Curry said, "We are going to transfer him, I have talked to Decker, we are going to transfer him."

Mr. Ball. When were the plans for the transfer made?

Mr. Fritz. When were the plans made?

Mr. Ball. Yes; do you know?

Mr. Fritz. I don't know about that. The only thing I know is what I told you about when the chief told me about would he be ready by 10 o'clock that morning, and I told him I thought we could.

Mr. Ball. You didn't make the plans yourself?

Mr. Fritz. No, sir.