Mr. Bouck. Yes.
Mr. McCloy. If I might intervene here, if I understand it. I don't know whether it is good but there is speculation and conjecture in it, I don't know if you will get far with it. Probably if you had known all the derogatory information that you now know was accumulated in all of the agencies of the Government irrespective of where this fellow was in Dallas you might have kept your eye on him.
Mr. Bouck. Again, that would be speculation. I don't know. It wouldn't be normal. It wouldn't fit within our normal category unless we knew he was—he had a vantage point. We know of tremendous numbers of people who are bad people that we don't keep an eye on.
Mr. McCloy. Yes; but suppose you knew these men, or suppose you encountered some of these defectors. I am told there are 18 others, wouldn't you have been somewhat negligent if you didn't check up on him when he got to the vantage point in Dallas?
Mr. Bouck. If we had checked up, I don't know whether we would have gone beyond that.
Mr. McCloy. I don't suggest that but you might have kept him under surveillance.
Mr. Bouck. We would have taken note of this.
Mr. Stern. Would that have been true if he had not been known to be living in Dallas, if his last known address was New Orleans?
Mr. Bouck. If he had not been living in Dallas we would not have checked on on him in this trip area even with the other information.
Mr. Stern. Suppose he had been living in Fort Worth?