Representative Ford. Did he try to get out of the bathroom?
Mrs. Oswald. I remember that I held him. We actually struggled for several minutes and then he quieted down. I remember that I told him that if he goes out it would be better for him to kill me than to go out.
Mr. Dulles. He is quite a big man and you are a small woman.
Mrs. Oswald. No; he is not a big man. He is not strong.
Mr. Dulles. Well, he was 5 feet 9, and you are how tall?
Mrs. Oswald. When he is very upset, my husband is very upset he is not strong and when I want to and when I collect all my forces and want to do something very badly I am stronger than he is.
Mr. Dulles. You meant mentally or physically?
Mrs. Oswald. I am not strong but, you know, there is a certain balance of forces between us.
Mr. Dulles. Do you think it was persuasion, your persuasion of him or the physical force or both that prevented him from going?
Mrs. Oswald. I don't think it was physically, physical prevention because if he—I couldn't keep him from going out if he really wanted to. It might have been that he was just trying to test me. He was the kind of person who could try and wound somebody in that way. Possibly he didn't want to go out at all but was just doing this all as a sort of joke, not really as a joke but rather to simply wound me, to make me feel bad.