Senator Cooper. Did your husband say why he wanted to use the pistol against Mr. Nixon?

Mrs. Oswald. No.

Senator Cooper. Did he say where he intended to see Mr. Nixon?

Mrs. Oswald. He didn't say. He just said in Dallas, and since Nixon was coming to Dallas.

Senator Cooper. When he was talking to you about seeing Mr. Nixon and using the pistol, what was his attitude? Was he angry or——

Mrs. Oswald. He wasn't angry. He looked more preoccupied and had sort of a concentrated look.

Senator Cooper. Now, from the beginning, from the time that he first told you that he was going to use the pistol, until the time that you say he became quieted, did he again make any statement about using the pistol against Mr. Nixon?

Mrs. Oswald. I told him that I didn't want him to use his gun any more. He said, "I will go out and have a look and perhaps I won't use my gun, but if there is a convenient opportunity perhaps I will." Strike "perhaps" please from that last sentence. I didn't have a lot of time to think of what we were actually saying. All I was trying to do was to prevent him from going out.

Senator Cooper. How much time elapsed, if you can remember, from the time he first told you that he was going out and when he finally became pacified?

Mrs. Oswald. This was maybe 30 minutes. The whole incident took maybe 20 minutes. It was about 10 minutes I took—15 minutes maybe. 15 minutes, it took maybe 10 minutes for him to be prepared to go out and then the incident in the bathroom took maybe 5 minutes until he quieted down. It doesn't mean I held him in the bathroom for 5 minutes because I couldn't do that but the general discussion in the bathroom.