Senator Cooper. Did you mean, though, to say that you believed he might have discussed the Cuban policy with Mr. Paine.

Mrs. Oswald. Yes; especially after we returned from New Orleans.

Senator Cooper. Why? Why do you make that statement?

Mrs. Oswald. Because we only saw Mr. Paine once or twice before we went to New Orleans. And there was more opportunity to see Mr. Paine after we came back.

Senator Cooper. But my question is what makes you think he might have talked to Mr. Paine about Cuba?

Mrs. Oswald. I think, sir; because after returning from New Orleans this was his favorite subject, Cuba, and he was quite—a little bit cracked about it, crazy about Cuba.

Senator Cooper. You mean he talked to you a great deal about it after you came from New Orleans?

Mrs. Oswald. Well, in New Orleans he used to talk to me endlessly about Cuba, but after we came back he didn't talk to me about it any longer because I was just sick and tired of this.

Mr. Dulles. "He" in this case is your husband?

Mrs. Oswald. That is right. I really don't know about what he talked with Mr. Paine. I think that they were talking about politics, that is to say my husband with Mr. Paine because my husband used to tell me afterwards, "Well, he doesn't understand anything about politics." "He is not too strong on politics."