Mr. Jenner. All right, sir.
You are able to say, from your familiarity with the condition of matters on the evening of April 10, 1963, that both Commission exhibits——
Mr. Surrey. No; that one I don't know.
Mr. Jenner. That Commission Exhibit No. 1009 depicts the condition of that room, which is the room to the reverse side of Commission Exhibit No. 1008, as it was the evening of April 10, 1963.
Mr. Surrey. Substantially the same; yes.
Mr. Jenner. And even including the boxes and packages of material?
Mr. Surrey. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner. You will notice in substantially the center of that exhibit a rupture appears to be in the wall. Was that in fact a rupture?
Mr. Surrey. Yes; it was. That is where the bullet came out of the wall, and when the police came they found the bullet on top of these packages.
Mr. Jenner. On top of the packages shown on Commission Exhibit No. 1009. I show you Exhibit No. 1011, which appears to be a photograph of a fence, lattice fence. Are you familiar with that?