Mr. Rowley. Yes, sir.

Representative Ford. Is the figure we see here——

Mr. Rowley. This is what we call a tentative budget.

Mr. Rankin. That has been presented to the Budget Bureau?

Mr. Rowley. It has not been presented to the Budget Office of the Treasury, which is the first step. Then it goes to the Budget Bureau, and then subsequently to the House and Senate.

Mr. Rankin. You said it has not been.

Mr. Rowley. No; this is a tentative proposal that we have made.

Mr. Rankin. At this stage, so we get the record clear—that is a consideration of what you think you should have, but it hasn't gone through the steps you have just described, is that right?

Mr. Rowley. That is right. But it does not include—necessarily, until we complete our thorough examination—what our requirements will be under the new revisions of our organization. Particularly as it relates to manpower, we want to be sure that we have the proper justification. And so we hope by October or November to have a good estimate at that time.

Representative Ford. Well, the figure that is shown here for fiscal year 1965 is $7,550,000.