Mr. Jenner. In what state?

Mr. Weissman. In Munich, Germany.

Mr. Jenner. I see. And that was a sort of declaration among you?

Mr. Weissman. It was a written declaration; yes.

Mr. Jenner. Who drafted that?

Mr. Weissman. We did—that is, we called ourselves—the hangers-on were identified as the outer circle, and the partners were the inner circle. This was just for ease of identification. This, I think, would be the easiest way to really express it.

And the partners, the five partners, were the inner circle, the leaders of this organization; and——

The Chairman. Gentlemen, may I interrupt for just a minute? I have an appointment I must keep at the court.

Congressman Ford, will you preside, please?

Representative Ford. Surely.