Mr. Brian. Just—I didn't keep a constant pace with them, but as far as—I don't recall exactly——
Mr. Rankin. You were close to them, were you?
Mr. Brian. Here is the stairway in the basement, there is one narrow stairway going up to the first floor, and you pass it and you go by the phone booth and a jail office and you pass the stairway, it is right over here in the basement of city hall.
Mr. Rankin. And you were close to them as you went across there to take the elevator?
Mr. Brian. I was behind them and they were going away from me and I was fairly close, yes, sir.
Mr. Rankin. About how far?
Mr. Brian. Probably 6 or 7 feet or 8 feet behind. When we got to the elevator and we all stopped there together and caught the elevator.
Mr. Dulles. Where did the conversation take place, in front of the elevators there?
Mr. Brian. That I heard?
Mr. Dulles. Yes.