Senator Russell. He had to do then with the passports. His recommendation would have had to have been had with the passports?*

*Mrs. Oswald. I think so. I do not know definitely, but that meeting was in the Ministry of Internal Affairs. He was not dressed in a military uniform.

Senator Russell. Had you known the colonel prior to that time?*

*Mrs. Oswald. No; he introduced himself as Colonel Aksenov.

Mr. Gregory. When?

*Mrs. Oswald. When I talked to him concerning these documents for exit visas. Even if he were in a uniform, I would not have known what the insignia meant.

Senator Russell. If you didn't know him prior to that time, why is it you got to see him and Lee could not visit him?*

*Mrs. Oswald. When Lee went to see Colonel Aksenov in regard to the exit visas and other documents, he could not see the colonel. Then, on another later occasion, I went to see the colonel and they let me see him, on a later occasion.

Senator Russell. But you don't know why?*

Mrs. Oswald (no response).