Mr. McCloy. Hold that around so I can see it.
Mr. Frazier. Represented by frame 185, this is the first or rather the only position through the foliage of the tree at which a person from the sixth floor could get a clear shot at the back of the President, and I had the car stopped at this position and then we determined that this was frame 185 from the Zapruder films.
Mr. Dulles. There are no heavy limbs in there of any kind, are there——
Mr. Frazier. No, sir.
Mr. Dulles. That would obstruct a bullet?
Mr. Frazier. No, sir. The tree—it is a live oak tree which retains its leaves all year around and the limbs at that point are relatively small.
Mr. Dulles. All right.
Mr. Specter. Did you compare the appearance of the foliage on the pictures taken by the Secret Service, about which Inspector Kelley earlier testified, with the appearance of the foliage on May 24?
Mr. Frazier. Yes; I did.
Mr. Specter. What was that comparison?