Mr. Dulles. And by defectors, I guess we mean here maybe a redefector, meaning those who have gone to Russia and have come back or maybe those who have gone and not come back.
Mr. Belmont. If they haven't come back——
Mr. Dulles. They are not a danger.
Mr. Belmont. They are not within our cognizance and we don't notify Secret Service.
Mr. Dulles. These would be defectors who have gone to the Soviet Union and who then come back to the United States and tried to defect while they were over there.
Mr. McCloy. Not necessarily, not exclusively the Soviet Union, of course.
Mr. Dulles. Communist countries, I would say.
Representative Ford. Just to get an order of magnitude, how many are there? Is this a sizable number?
Mr. Belmont. I don't have a figure, Mr. Ford. You have had defectors in Korea from the military. You have had defectors——
Mr. McCloy. Germany.