So about 12 officers came in and they were standing around Oswald, and at this time I looked out in the audience and saw a man out there, later, who turned out to be Jack Ruby. He was there at that scene.
Mr. Rankin. How did you happen to pick him out?
Mr. Wade. Well, I don't know. He had—I had seen the fellow somewhere before, but I didn't know his name, but he had a pad, and the reason I remember him mostly——
Mr. Rankin. You mean a scratch pad?
Mr. Wade. He had some kind of scratch pad. The reason I mentioned him mostly, I will get into him in a minute and tell you everything about him. He was out there about 1 minute, I would say, and they took pictures and everything else and Oswald was here and the cameras were in a ring around him, and as they left——
Mr. Rankin. Excuse me. Where was Ruby from where you told us where Oswald was?
Mr. Wade. Well, he was, I would say, about 12 feet. I am giving a rough——
Mr. Rankin. When you saw him——
Mr. Wade. We went all through this at the trial, and it varied on where Ruby was, but when I saw him he was about four rows back in the aisle seat, standing up in the seat.
Mr. Rankin. Were there press men around him?