Senator Cooper. Was he standing up on the platform?

Mr. Wade. No, he was not at the platform.

Senator Cooper. Was he on the floor level?

Mr. Wade. He was in the floor level in the middle. If I understand, that was the first or second time I had ever been in the room.

Senator Cooper. Were there people around him, surrounding him?

Mr. Wade. People were on the floor in front of those desks.

Senator Cooper. But I mean, were they, were people on all sides of him?

Mr. Wade. No; they were all in front of him. They were all in front of him, and you had a ring of policemen behind him, policemen on all sides of him. It was just the front where they were, and that is the way I recall it, but I knew they had a line of policemen behind him, and the place was full of policemen, because they went up and it turns out later they got all the police who were on duty that night. They were plain clothes police, most of them, maybe they had a uniform or two, a few of them.

So they started——

Senator Cooper. Excuse me one moment.