Mr. Belin. Then what did you do?

Mr. Harkness. I went down to Industrial to see if I could see anyone fleeing that area.

Mr. Belin. What did you see?

Mr. Harkness. I didn't see anyone, so I come back to the front of the Book Depository and went around to this fence that was across the street from Elm Street.

Mr. Belin. What do you mean across the street from Elm Street?

Mr. Harkness. Again, I will have to—near the railroad track.

Mr. Belin. Behind the building?

Mr. Harkness. No, sir; this area right here. See, Elm Street goes down.

Mr. Belin. What you are really saying——

Mr. Harkness. This area.