Mr. Ball. And who was out there?
Mr. Shelley. Well, there was Lloyd Viles of McGraw-Hill, Sarah Stanton, she's with Texas School Book, and Wesley Frazier and Billy Lovelady joined us shortly afterwards.
Mr. Ball. You were standing where?
Mr. Shelley. Just outside the glass doors there.
Mr. Ball. That would be on the top landing of the entrance?
Mr. Shelley. Yes.
Mr. Ball. Did you see the motorcade pass?
Mr. Shelley. Yes.
Mr. Ball. What did you hear?
Mr. Shelley. Well, I heard something sounded like it was a firecracker and a slight pause and then two more a little bit closer together.