Mr. Ball. Did you see Truly, Mr. Truly and an officer go into the building?

Mr. Shelley. Yeah, we saw them right at the front of the building while we were on the island.

Mr. Ball. While you were out there before you walked to the railroad yards?

Mr. Shelley. Yes.

Mr. Ball. Do you have any idea how long it was from the time you heard those three sounds or three noises until you saw Truly and Baker going into the building?

Mr. Shelley. It would have to be 3 or 4 minutes I would say because this girl that ran back up there was down near where the car was when the President was hit.

Mr. Ball. She ran back up to the door and you had still remained standing there?

Mr. Shelley. Yes.

Mr. Ball. Going to watch the rest of the parade were you?

Mr. Shelley. Yes.