Mr. Arce. Oh, I was way far from it. I was across the street, I mean.
Mr. Ball. What do you mean "across the street"?
Mr. Arce. Well, there's a little sidewalk right across the street and there's some grass and things up there and that's where I was at. I couldn't tell you exactly where I was, see, it's hard to explain.
Mr. Ball. Well, you say you were not in front of the building?
Mr. Arce. Well, not directly, not in front; I was across the street.
Mr. Ball. And were you west of the west wall of the building?
Mr. Arce. Well, I was, well the building——
Mr. Ball. I understand but you were to the south of the building. You had to be south of the building, didn't you?
Mr. Arce. Well, I was south but I was, well, I guess you could say I was in front of the building but not directly in front, well, I don't know how to explain it.
Mr. Ball. Who was standing with you?