Mr. Ball. You saw the President's car pass?

Mr. Molina. Yes.

Mr. Ball. Did you see anything after that?

Mr. Molina. Well, I heard the shots.

Mr. Ball. Where—what was the source of the sound?

Mr. Molina. Sort of like it reverberated, sort of kind of came from the west side; that was the first impression I got. Of course, the first shot was fired then there was an interval between the first and second longer than the second and third.

Mr. Ball. What did you do after that?

Mr. Molina. Well, I just stood there, everybody was running and I didn't know what to do actually, because what could I do. I was just shocked.

Mr. Ball. Did anybody say anything?

Mr. Molina. Yes, this fellow come to me—Mr. Williams said, somebody said, somebody was shooting at the President, somebody, I don't know who it was. There was some shooting, you know, and this fellow said "What can anybody gain by that"; he just shook his head and I just stood there and shook my head. I didn't want to think what was happening, you know, but I wanted to find out so I went down to where the grassy slope is, you know, and I was trying to gather pieces of conversation of the people that had been close by there and somebody said "Well, the President has been shot and I think they shot somebody else", something like that.