Mr. Dougherty. Yes—I heard one—it sounded like a backfire.
Mr. Ball. Where were you when you heard that shot?
Mr. Dougherty. I was on the fifth floor.
Mr. Ball. You were on the fifth floor?
Mr. Dougherty. Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball. Now, when you left your lunch, did you go to the fifth floor or the sixth floor to go back to work?
Mr. Dougherty. I went on the fifth floor when I was getting ready to go down to eat lunch.
Mr. Ball. Yes; and then what happened?
Mr. Dougherty. Well, at that time—I was about 10 feet away——
Mr. Ball. Wait a minute—did you hear the shots before or after you had your lunch?