Mr. Ball. Did you leave the first floor from then on until lunch time, from 11:30 until 12?

Mr. Piper. No.

Mr. Ball. What time was it that you spoke to Oswald and said you thought you would have your lunch?

Mr. Piper. Just about 12 o'clock.

Mr. Ball. And do you remember exactly what he said?

Mr. Piper. No, sir; I don't remember exactly. All I remember him was muttering out something—I didn't know whether he said he was going up or going out.

Mr. Ball. He said something like that?

Mr. Piper. Yes—something like that.

Mr. Ball. Did you see what he did?

Mr. Piper. No, sir; I didn't.