Mr. Specter. Did you have a discussion with Mrs. Connally?

Dr. Shires. Yes; with Mrs. Connally.

Mr. Specter. And when was that discussion?

Dr. Shires. Right after the surgery—this was the 22d, late in the afternoon.

Mr. Specter. And what, if anything, did she tell you as to the Governor's position?

Dr. Shires. She had thought, and I think correctly so, that he had turned to his right after he heard the first shot, apparently, to see what had happened to the President, and he then later confirmed this, that he heard the first shot, turned to his right, and then was hit.

I forgot about that a moment ago, incidentally. He definitely remembers turning after hearing the first shot, before he was struck with a bullet. I forgot about that.

Mr. Specter. When did Governor Connally tell you that?

Dr. Shires. Oh, several days later.

Mr. Specter. While he was in the hospital?