Mr. Specter. And would you outline your educational background, please, starting with college—graduation from college?

Dr. Dulany. From college I went to the University Medical School of Oklahoma and then took my internship here at Parkland Hospital and was in the service for 2 years in the Navy, and I just got back from the service in November, and started a residency here in surgery.

Mr. Specter. Did you have occasion to participate in the care of President Kennedy on November 22, 1963?

Dr. Dulany. Is this all recorded now?

Mr. Specter. Yes.

Dr. Dulany. Well, as I stated, I principally cared for the Governor and then after his emergency treatment had been cared for, I went into the room where President Kennedy was being cared for.

Mr. Specter. Were you present from the start of the Governor's treatment?

Dr. Dulany. Yes, sir.

Mr. Specter. And about what time did you go into the room where the President was being treated?

Dr. Dulany. Well, I believe the Governor was supposed to have been in the surgery suite upstairs within 12 minutes after he came in, and so I'm sure I must have been in the room where the President was, about 7 minutes or so afterwards.