Mr. Dillard. The School Depository. And at the same time I brought my camera up and I was looking for the window. Now, this was after the third shot and Jackson said, "There's the rifle barrel up there," and then he said it was the second from the top in the right-hand side, and I swung to it and there was two figures below, and I just shot with one camera, 100-mm. lens on a 35-mm. camera which is approximately a two times daily photo twice normal lens and a wide angle on a 35-mm. which took in a considerable portion of the building and I shot those pictures in rapid sequence with the two cameras.
Mr. Ball. You shot how many pictures?
Mr. Dillard. Two pictures.
Mr. Ball. With one camera or two different cameras?
Mr. Dillard. Two different cameras—one daily photo, not extreme daily photo, but twice the normal lens.
Mr. Ball. You say your cameras were ready? How were they ready?
Mr. Dillard. Hung around my neck and held in my hand.
Mr. Ball. You brought them up and focused and shot?
Mr. Dillard. Well, on the whole ride, I had been watching the tops of buildings and watching for any signs or anything unusual which, of course, is a newsman's chore on a parade like that. We were badly—in a very bad position from our viewpoint to cover anything on the parade, so we were all, as any news photographer is, rather tense when he is covering a Presidential or an affair of that sort and he is trying to get whatever pictures possible and watching for every possibility, and so we all tried for a number of things. Incidentally, the only unusual thing in the parade that I noticed was the President—I understand the President stopped his car at Lemmon and Loma Alta, which is out in the near suburbs of Dallas, as I understand, at the request of a sign that said, "Mr. President, stop and shake hands with us." I jumped out of the car—it was a convertible with the top down—and tried to run to get pictures of it but by that time the parade started and I was unable to get up that far.
Mr. Ball. When you shot these two pictures of the Texas School Book Depository Building, how far were you from the building, would you say?