Mr. Belin. As Elm Street goes down to the freeway?
Mrs. Rowland. Yes.
Mr. Belin. Then where did you go?
Mrs. Rowland. We walked towards the railroad tracks, but the policeman wouldn't let anybody go further.
Mr. Belin. Then what did you do?
Mrs. Rowland. We just stood there and he was speculating on what had happened, and he was looking around at everything, and the policeman inspected a Coke drink bottle that was there, and my husband found a pen, very cheap ballpoint pen that you get as an advertisement, and he gave it to the policeman, and then he mentioned the man he had seen in the School Book Depository Building, and then the man took us to the records building.
Mr. Belin. Who did your husband mention this to? Was this some police officer?
Mrs. Rowland. I am not certain. The first man he mentioned it to was wearing plain clothes, and we didn't see him again, I don't think. And then there were some other men who took us to the building. I don't know who they were.
Mr. Belin. Then what did you do when you got to the building? Did you stay with your husband?
Mrs. Rowland. Yes.