Mr. Specter. Where was the President's car at the time you thought you heard the fourth shot?

Mrs. Hill. The motorcade came to almost a halt at the time the shots rang out, and I would say it was just approximately, if not—it couldn't have been in the same position, I'm sure it wasn't, but just a very, very short distance from where it had been. It was just almost stunned.

Mr. Specter. And how about the time of the fifth shot, where do you think the President's car was?

Mrs. Hill. That was during those shots, I think it wasn't any further than a few feet—further down.

Mr. Specter. Which shots, now—you mean the fourth, and perhaps the fifth and perhaps the sixth shot?

Mrs. Hill. Yes.

Mr. Specter. Are you able to say what anyone was doing or what events were occurring at the time of the fourth through perhaps the sixth shots which you have testified about?

Mrs. Hill. Well, as I said, at that time she was yelling at me and on the ground.

Mr. Specter. Who was yelling at you?

Mrs. Hill. Mary, my friend, was yelling at me and she was down on the ground and I looked up and I could see everyone was just stunned, there was immobility all around and I just stood there looking around and I'm sure there wasn't a pause—it seemed like an eternity but I'm sure there was just a slight pause before things started moving again.