Mr. Ball. Is that the first time you saw the President's car, when it turned off Houston Street onto Elm Street?

Mr. Reilly. Yes.

Mr. Ball. How many people were there on the overpass at the time—at that time?

Mr. Reilly. Just what I told you.

Mr. Ball. Tell me again.

Mr. Reilly. Well, there was Holland and me and Dick Dodd and those two fellows out there and the two policemen—that's all I remember seeing out there.

Mr. Ball. Did you hear something?

Mr. Reilly. Yes.

Mr. Ball. What did you hear?

Mr. Reilly. Three shots.