Mr. Ball. You would be east or west?

Mr. Brown. We would be to the southwest of that.

Mr. Ball. You would be to the southwest of that?

Mr. Brown. Yes, I would say that's about right.

Mr. Ball. Did you have the corner of Houston and Elm Street in sight from where you were located?

Mr. Brown. Actually, we could see cars moving there, you know, coming and making the turn, but the intersection, that would be about all we probably could see would be cars.

Mr. Ball. Could you see cars going down after they made the turn and going down toward the underpass south?

Mr. Brown. Yes.

Mr. Ball. You could see those?

Mr. Brown. Yes.