Mr. Stern. Did you tell them that you heard distinctly four shots at that time?
Mr. Holland. Yes.
Mr. Stern. You were certain then?
Mr. Holland. I was certain then and I—in that statement I believe that I——
Mr. Stern. Well, the FBI report that I have said that you heard either three or four shots fired together, and I gather the impression of the agent was that you were uncertain whether it was three or four.
Mr. Holland. At the time I made that statement, of course, I was pretty well shook up, but I told the people at the sheriff's office, whoever took the statement, that I believed there was four shots, because they were so close together, and I have also told those two, four, six Federal men that have been out there that I definitely saw the puff of smoke and heard the report from under those trees.
Mr. Stern. Did you realize that these were shots then?
Mr. Holland. Yes; I think I realized what was happening out there.
Mr. Stern. You did?
Mr. Holland. When Governor Connally was knocked down in the seat.