Mr. Holland. Well, the impression was that the shots, the first two or three shots came from the upper part of the street, now, from where I was.
Mr. Stern. East on Elm?
Mr. Holland. Yes, up in here somewhere. [Indicating.] I didn't have the least idea that it was up any higher, but I thought the shot was coming—coming from this crowd in here [indicating]. That is what it sounded like to me from where I was.
Mr. Stern. You are indicating on this Exhibit C. Why don't you put a square around the area that you just pointed to. You had no idea, I take it, that the shots were coming from your area?
Mr. Holland. No.
Mr. Stern. It is your impression that they did not, could not, as far as the sound was concerned?
Mr. Holland. As far as the sound was concerned they did not.
Mr. Stern. Did you see anything on the overpass that seemed to you any way unusual?
Mr. Holland. Oh, no; no.
Mr. Stern. All right. Off the record.