Mr. Rackley. The only thing—I told the guy, he was down there, the only thing that I saw that looked suspicious to me, there was something like a hundred pigeons flew up like you shot into them, and I noticed that, but I never heard no shots.

Mr. Belin. Where did you see them fly from?

Mr. Rackley. From over the top of the building.

Mr. Belin. Which building? The School Book Depository or over on the other side?

Mr. Rackley. The Trinity Building.

Mr. Belin. Which building did they fly off of?

Mr. Rackley. I wasn't looking. I just seen they all flew together.

Mr. Belin. Did it look like they were flying up from both buildings?

Mr. Rackley. Both buildings.

Mr. Belin. You don't know about when this took place?