Mr. Romack. Well, I watched them all the time until someone arrived, and the only time I did take my back off, turn my back to the building was Sam Pate with his KBOX news, he arrived before any of the police or anyone.

Mr. Belin. Is that KBOX?

Mr. Romack. Yes.

Mr. Belin. Is that a radio or television station?

Mr. Romack. It is a radio station.

Mr. Belin. How long did you take your eyes off then?

Mr. Romack. He was driving up and they were having a little high—the city has a piece of wood that they use to stop traffic coming through, and I'd taken that so he could come through, drive his truck.

Mr. Belin. How long did you leave your post?

Mr. Romack. I didn't leave. That was right there, even closer than what we were. But all I did was let that down for him, and then we——

Mr. Belin. Would that have taken less than a minute?