Mr. Ball. The place where Elm dead ends?
Mr. Bowers. That's right. Back in front of the School Depository was the only way he could get out. And I lost sight of him, I couldn't watch him.
Mr. Ball. What was the description of that car?
Mr. Bowers. The first car was a 1959 Oldsmobile, blue and white station wagon with out-of-State license.
Mr. Ball. Do you know what State?
Mr. Bowers. No; I do not. I would know it, I could identify it, I think, if I looked at a list.
Mr. Ball. And, it had something else, some bumper stickers?
Mr. Bowers. Had a bumper sticker, one of which was a Goldwater sticker, and the other of which was of some scenic location, I think.
Mr. Ball. And, did you see another car?
Mr. Bowers. Yes, some 15 minutes or so after this, at approximately 12 o'clock, 20 to 12—I guess 12:20 would be close to it, little time differential there—but there was another car which was a 1957 black Ford, with one male in it that seemed to have a mike or telephone or something that gave the appearance of that at least.