Mr. Martin. He was to my right when we made the turn on Houston Street.

Mr. Ball. At the time you heard this shot, where was he?

Mr. Martin. I presume he was still to my right. I don't recall seeing him after the shots.

Mr. Ball. He would have been closer to the President's car than you would have?

Mr. Martin. Yes, sir—he would have been—I would say 3- or 4-foot closer than I was.

Mr. Ball. You traveled along the street about 3 or 4 feet apart from each other?

Mr. Martin. Yes, sir—something like that.

Mr. Ball. When you heard the first shot, did you have any idea of the direction which the shot was coming from?

Mr. Martin. No, sir; I didn't. I couldn't tell from which direction it was coming—any of the shots.

Mr. Ball. Did you look?