Mr. Belin. When you say the approximate age or size, do you specify what age or size you want?

Mr. Graves. Well, it is not necessary, because they are looking at the man that you are bringing down.

Mr. Belin. Well——

Mr. Graves. So all he has to do is pick them out.

Mr. Belin. So what you mean is the approximate age and size of the particular person you want included in the showup, or is it of another particular age and size?

Mr. Graves. The fact is, if I was showing you, I would tell them to pull you for a showup and put some other men about your age and size. That is what it boils down to.

Mr. Belin. Now, could you tell us what Mrs. or Miss Markham did or said when this particular showup took place? Were you standing right next to her?

Mr. Graves. About as close as I am to you, which would be approximately 4 or 5 feet.

Mr. Belin. All right; the men walked in, I assume, is that correct?

Mr. Graves. That's right.