Mr. Belin. What was your impression of him, as far as a person is concerned? His demeanor, his action, what kind of a person he was?

Mr. Graves. Well, of course I am not a psychiatrist or psychologist, but I would say he was an eight ball, in my vernacular.

Mr. Belin. An eight ball in Army vernacular?

Mr. Graves. In any vernacular. We deal with a lot of people in our business, as well as we run into all types of people. I would say that he was egotistical.

Mr. Belin. Let me stop right there. What gave you the impression he was egotistical?

Mr. Graves. Well, I don't know. A person of his nature and cocky attitude, I don't know exactly how to explain it.

Mr. Belin. Any specific thing that he did that gave you that impression, that you can remember at all, or not?

Mr. Graves. No; not anything in particular. Again, you just have to be around people. I don't know how to explain how people act to where it means anything, but I know what it means to me. I have been wrong a few times, but I have been right most of the time in summing up how people are, their actions, and so forth, and I would say this boy was a little far out in his belief about things in general.

And the way he conducted hisself. He is just plain egotistical, that is all. He don't care about you, me, or anybody else. He is caring about Oswald.

Mr. Belin. Can you think of any specific action or remark of his that might be an illustration of this?