Mr. Leavelle. I believe Sergeant Bud Owens was the sergeant there and one of the uniformed officers was—I may be in error on this, but I believe it was Poe.
Mr. Ball. J. M. Poe?
Mr. Leavelle. Yes; P-o-e [spelling].
Mr. Ball. At that time someone told you some empty .38 caliber hulls had been picked up. Did Poe tell you that?
Mr. Leavelle. Yes; I believe he did.
Mr. Ball. Did he give you the hulls?
Mr. Leavelle. No; he did not give them to me. I think my instructions to him were to turn them over to the crime lab.
Mr. Ball. Did he show them to you?
Mr. Leavelle. I don't think so; he may have but I do not recall. He may have. He did say that there was an eyewitness to it but he didn't know her name at the time. So, while I was talking to him was when the call came out they seen the suspect go into the Texas Theatre, so I proceeded to the Texas Theatre, but due to the heavy traffic, I didn't get there until after the arrest was made and they had left, so I returned to the scene and talked with the officer some more and I believe that he also told me that a man in a carlot down there had seen Oswald running from the scene.
Mr. Ball. Who told you?