Mr. Belin. When you got there, did you see what the situation was on the third floor?
Mr. Barnes. Yes; we could.
Mr. Belin. What was the situation on the third floor?
Mr. Barnes. Turmoil of news media, photographers.
Mr. Belin. What do you mean by turmoil?
Mr. Barnes. Well, they just all of them trying to get up in there where they could get a shot.
Mr. Belin. By a shot, you mean a picture?
Mr. Barnes. Yes; a photo. Any photos they might get for the newspapers.
In case they should get a view, they wanted to be there at the time. I presume that is what they were there for.
Mr. Belin. Was Oswald on the third floor at the time?