Mr. Holmes. That is a photostatic copy of the original box rental application covering the rental of box 2915, at the main post office in Dallas, Tex., which shows that it was completed on October the 9th, 1962. The applicants name was Lee H. Oswald, home address, 3519 Fairmore Avenue, Dallas, Tex. Signed Lee H. Oswald. It shows that the box was closed on May 14, 1963.

Mr. Belin. Now, it is stamped date box opened, October 9, 1962. And that is the same date that it appears to be written in handwriting at the bottom of it.

Mr. Holmes. That's correct.

Mr. Belin. All right. Now, you found this postal money order and then what did you do?

Mr. Holmes. Off the record, let me ask you something. I questioned him about this box and all the angles with it during this interview.

Mr. Belin. I am going to get to that.

Mr. Holmes. I didn't know whether you wanted to put it in there.

Mr. Belin. I am going to get to that. Then what did you do?

Mr. Holmes. I gave that information to my boss by telephone. He called Washington immediately. Of course this information included the money order number. This number was transmitted by phone to the chief inspector in Washington, who immediately got the money order center at Washington to begin a search, which they use IBM equipment to kick out this money order, and about 7 o'clock Saturday night they did kick out the original money order and sent it over by, so they said, by special conveyance to the Secret Service, chief of Secret Service at Washington now, and it turned out, so they said, to be the correct money order. I asked them by phone as to what it said on it, and it said it had been issued to A. J. Hidell, which to me then was the tip that I had the correct money order. Up to then I didn't know whether I had the correct money order or not.

Mr. Belin. How did you know about the use of the name A. J. Hidell?