(Discussion off the record.)

Mr. Belin. Now, with regard to this Mexican trip, did he say who he saw in Mexico?

Mr. Holmes. Only that he went to the Mexican consulate or Embassy or something and wanted to get permission, or whatever it took to get to Cuba. They refused him and he became angry and he said he burst out of there, and I don't know. I don't recall now why he went into the business about how mad it made him.

He goes over to the Russian Embassy. He was already at the American. This was the Mexican—he wanted to go to Cuba.

Then he went to the Russian Embassy and he said, because he said then he wanted to go to Russia by way of Cuba, still trying to get to Cuba and try that angle and they refused and said, "Come back in 30 days," or something like that. And, he went out of there angry and disgusted.

Mr. Belin. Did he go to the Cuban Embassy, did he say or not?

Mr. Holmes. He may have gone there first, but the best of my recollection, it might have been Cuban and then the Russian, wherever he went at first, he wanted to get to Cuba, and then he went to the Russian to go by Cuba.

Mr. Belin. Did he say why he wanted to go to Cuba?

Mr. Holmes. No.

Mr. Belin. Did—this wasn't reported in your interview in the memorandum that you wrote?