Mr. Olds. This was right at midnight, I think, when Oswald was brought in.

Mr. Stern. Brought in where?

Mr. Olds. This was a squadroom and I am not sure what the term is. It is in the basement of the police station. That was being used as a pressroom. I believe it is some sort of a classroom or something of that sort. He was brought in there. I suppose a hundred reporters standing around on tables, and I understand Ruby was there at the time, too, up near the front.

Mr. Stern. You don't know that, though?

Mr. Olds. I don't remember seeing him.

Mr. Stern. Do you know Ruby?

Mr. Olds. No; I don't. No; I remember someone saying what he was supposed to have said when—and helped somebody answer a question. I forget what it was, and Oswald came in, and he was there about 5 minutes——

Mr. Stern. Were you permitted to enter this room without displaying any identification?

Mr. Olds. Yes; I wasn't stopped at all. Nobody seemed to pay—it was pretty well confused around there, and nobody questioned me at all.

Mr. Stern. Would you have been known to the police as a newspaperman?