Mr. Stern. This is the east side?

Mr. Sorrels. That would be the east side of Houston Street.

Mr. Stern. Are you certain about the name of this couple? I believe you said Arnold.

Mr. Sorrels. Well——

Mr. Stern. Could that have been his first name?

Mr. Sorrels. Yes, that could have been his first name.

Mr. Stern. Can you recall his second name?

Mr. Sorrels. I would know it if I heard it.

Mr. Stern. Could it have been Roland?

Mr. Sorrels. Yes, Roland is right.