Mr. Belin. What is your control number?

Mr. Scibor. VC-836.

Mr. Belin. How are these serial numbers obtained for placement on Waldman Deposition Exhibit No. 4?

Mr. Scibor. Directly off the guns.

Mr. Belin. Does someone actually look at the gun?

Mr. Scibor. Yes; someone looks; visually they are taken off the guns.

Mr. Belin. We want to thank you very much, sir, for your cooperation in helping obtaining this information.


TESTIMONY OF HEINZ W. MICHAELIS

The testimony of Heinz W. Michaelis was taken at 10 a.m., on May 11, 1964, at 1200 North Soto Street, Los Angeles. Calif., by Mr. Joseph A. Ball, assistant counsel of the President's Commission. Mr. George A. Rose, president of George Rose & Co., was present.